Tuesday’s Television Critics Association gave us a look into American Idol Season 12.  The two new judges Nicki Minaj and Mariah Carey have already caused quite a stir and Idol has not even started yet.

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Here, five things we learned about Idol in the year 2013…

1. Fox is putting all its eggs in the diva basket: Despite an effort to downplay the drama of November’s leaked cell phone video, network brass are convinced that the new panel will “invigorate the show.” So said Fox president of alternative programming Mike Darnell in a passionate defense of why Idol remains “the king of shows.” Said Darnell: Yes, there are too many of these shows on the air and they’re all taking each other down a little bit. But this is … the only one that makes stars and people keep coming back to it for that reason.” Fights aside, he continued, “There is passion in this group. They disagree on the talent and how to approach the talent. It’s not just the girls, it’s everybody.”

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